OUTRAGEOUS: JOE & JILL BIDEN LIE ABOUT MILITARY FAMILIES

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OUTRAGEOUS: Joe & Jill Biden lie about military families speaking out against the wars

November 20, 2010
by Robert L. Hanafin

 

Vice-President and Mrs. Biden lie when they say that they hear no complaints from Military Families who Question or Oppose the Wars

A significant number of Military Families Who Question, have concerns, or oppose the continued occupations, wars and multiple deployments of their love ones are OUTRAGED by the words used by Dr. Jill Biden, the wife of Vice-President Joe Biden during an interview on Larry King Live this past week.

A review of the transcript of the program clearly shows that both the Vice-President and Mrs. Biden were intentionally trying to distance themselves from any Pro-Peace or Anti-War Image the Obama campaign had acquired during the run up to the last Presidential election.

To any political strategist distancing themselves from any anti-war sentiment would have been the politically correct thing to do, but what has some Military Families outraged is that both the Vice-President and Second Lady lied about any knowledge of Military Families that do have complaints about the wars and want their love ones home NOW.

The responses to hints given by Larry King that there is a Pro-Peace movement out there that includes military families paints a deceitfully rosy picture of how Military Families endure without complaint.

Second Lady Jill Biden says the Vice-President and her NEVER hear from military families who say we [our government and American people] do not support them. It was a loaded and vague question until one reads the follow on questions asked by Larry King that attempted to get acknowledgment from the Bidens that there is opposition to the wars from within the military community. The responses sounded like Larry was interviewing Vice-President and Mrs. Dick Cheney.

Larry King: “We know we always hear about the military families who say, we support them. Do you hear from people who say we don’t support them?”

Dr. Jill Biden:  “NEVER,” response of Jill Biden, November 18, 2010

“If I had gone [to Iraq] when [my son] Bo was there, I couldn’t have left him there. You know, I don’t think any mother who goes to a war zone could ever leave a child in a war zone.” Second Lady Jill Biden to Larry King, November 18, 2010

SEE FULL TRANSCRIPT OF EXCHANGE BETWEEN LARRY KING, VICE-PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, AND DR. JILL BIDEN – BELOW THE MFSO CALL TO ACTION!!!

We at Veterans Today just don’t get it.

The Democrat Party just got a shellacking from the Republicans, and their Tea Party allies, the last Congressional election. Yes, all parties concerned with the help of mainstream media managed to keep the wars out of the public eye as if Iraq and Afghanistan were blacked out media coverage.

But, why are Democrat leaders (or their spouses) doing everything  to further alienate the base of their party? DUMB

We can almost see the logic and political strategy of distancing themselves from a significant number of VOTES that got Obama elected, but why doom their administration to a one term Presidency. Obama and Biden are on a course to as Mr. Obama once feared LOSING THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!

Both First Lady Michelle Obama and Jill Bidan have consistently been approached by, and know that there are, military families who either question or outright oppose the continued occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. However, the knowledge Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Bidan have about such opposition to the wars is evidently to be kept behind closed doors and not made public, since admitting that even an insignificant number of military families oppose the wars in someway is politically  incorrect among almost Republican Blue Dog Democrats (a minority within the party most of whom did not get re-elected ANYWAY!)

For the record: While military families who blindly support the wars get direct access to the First and Second families, any military families the question or oppose the wars only get access to White House staff members allowing the First and Second families to distance themselves from any anti-war or Pro-Peace image. This could very well be disastrous for the Democrats when the American electorate begins to one day focus on the growing fiscal costs of the wars as already reflected in public opinion polls showing the majority of Americans DO NOT support the continued occupations of Iraq or Afghanistan.

However, do they have to lie about it for political convenience?

Be forewarned Democrats the more YOU alienate and distance yourselves from the Pro-Peace movement, and potential independent voters with brains, folks you needed and did not get a few weeks ago thus handing the House of Representative back over to the Republicans, the more President Obama is doomed to be a One Term President and the Democrat vulnerable for yet another shellacking.

When Mrs. Obama, or as in this case, Mrs. Biden go on TV and say they have NEVER been contacted by any military family that questions or opposes the continued wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that military families go about their commitment to war without complaint, these fine ladies are LIARS!!!

Such a response is only going to cost their husbands, and the Democrat Party direly needed VOTES circa 2012.

We at Veterans Today suggest that every reader who agrees [regardless of your political affiliation] contact the Larry King Live blog to set the record straight that the Vice-President and Mrs. Biden lied to Larry King, then contact the White House and demand that both the First Lady and Mrs. Biden come clean about what they know and think about military families who were against the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan. Lastly, as suggested and made easier to do by MFSO send letters to the editor, letters to your members of Congress expressing your outrage at this very deceitful and deceptive interview on Larry King Live.

Robert L. Hanafin, Major, U.S. Air Force-Retired, GS-14, U.S. Civil Service-Retired, Veterans Issues Editor, Veterans Today News Network

Leaders of Military Families Speak Out (MFSO) Outraged that the wife of the Vice-President Bidan is a Liar.

Dear Members and Supporters of Military Families Speak Out,

 

On November 17, Jill Biden was on Larry King Live, and spoke about her and Michelle Obama’s work with military families.

Larry King asked if Mrs. Biden ever heard from military families who were against the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan and she responded “Never”.

This is a lie.

In August, 2008, MFSO members Pat Alivso and others spoke with Jill Biden at the Democratic National Convention. They spoke about their work with Military Families Speak Out, their opposition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and their belief that the troops should be brought home and taken care of when they get here. Mrs. Biden said that she would do what she could.

In addition, on August 21st, 2009, a delegration of military families met with White House staff and talked with them about what Michelle Obama could do if she really wanted to support military families.

We need your support to let the country know that there are a growing number of military families who are speaking out against these wars.

Whether you are a member or a supporter, you can help spread the word.

We’ve made it easy for you. Go here to send a letter to the editor to the papers in your area.

Thank you for your efforts, please contact us if you would like information about how to get more involved.

On behalf of Military Families Speak Out,

Jack Amoureux, Rosanna Cambron, Debbie Carruth, Rosalie Donatelli, Sarah Fuhro, Adele Kubein, Jeff Merrick, Emiko Ortega, Diane Santoriello, Larry Syverson, Katy Zatsick –

MFSO Board of Directors
Nancy Lessin and Charley Richardson – MFSO Co-Founders
Deborah Forter, Samantha Miller, Nikki Morse, Zaskya Perez — MFSO Staff

P.S. You can also sign our petition to Obama and Congress asking them to bring our troops and our tax dollars home. Sign today!


MILITARY FAMILIES SPEAK OUT
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P.O. Box 300549, Jamaica Plain, MA 02130

 

Transcript of Larry King Interview with Vice-President and Mrs. Biden, 18 Nov 2010

KING: I see you a lot with Michelle Obama.

JILL BIDEN: Right, yes.

KING: PSAs, public service announcements. How do you two really get along?

JILL BIDEN: We really like one another. And I think from the very beginning when we got together, I think, you know, fate brought us together. And she had her projects that she was interested in and I had mine, but the one thing that we came together was military families. And so that’s what we’re working on together and we have a lot of fun together.

KING: We just heard your husband talk about Iraq and Afghanistan. Now you talk to military families, right?

JILL BIDEN: I do.

KING: Wives, husbands, children.

JILL BIDEN: Children, yes.

KING: We know we always hear about the military families who say, we support them. Do you hear from people who say we don’t support them?

 

JILL BIDEN: Never.

KING: They don’t say – [not giving Larry time to finish his question]

JILL BIDEN: Not from Americans, no. I think –

KING: They don’t say we wish you’d bring them back?

 

JILL BIDEN: Of course we wish would bring them back, but –

 

JOE BIDEN: We always hear, can you get my son home quicker or my daughter home quicker.

JILL BIDEN: Right. Yes.

KING: What do you say to that?

 

JILL BIDEN: Well, I think that — you know, I saw the earlier segment [about Progress in Afghanistan], and I think that’s what Joe and Barack are trying to do. They’re going to — you know, they brought our troops out of Iraq like they said that they were going to, and now they’re going to start to bring them out of Afghanistan.

JOE BIDEN: It was interesting watching Jill’s reaction when she came to Iraq, into a war zone with me on the 4th of July. And it was interesting to watch her — well, you — it was just kind of fascinating.

JILL BIDEN: Yes. I met with [a] women soldier who, you know, had kids going off to college and had –[Mrs. Biden failed to finish that thought]  I met with mothers who had to actually — their husbands were deployed and they had to leave their children with another family. And you know, they’re incredible men and women, and they never complain about their circumstances. And really, I just feel such pride in our forces.

KING: Back to the military — that was funny. The outgoing chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, Ike Skelton, says he worries that there’s a kind of chasm — a chasm between American civilians and the military families and their thoughts. In other words, a lot of civilians say we should get out of there. The military families, let’s stay in there.

That seems like a contradiction in terms. You would think the military family would be more interested in them coming home.

JOE BIDEN: I also think he [Obama] said, if you don’t mind my saying — I know Ike really well. He [the President] and I have talked at length about, here you have one percent of the population fighting these wars –

KING: Right.

JOE BIDEN: — and does the other 99 percent understand what they’re going through? And that was one of the chasms that Ike spoke about.

 And Jill has worked with — I mean, anyway — you [Jill] were asked the question [You would think the military family would be more interested in them [their love ones] coming home.]. I apologize.

(LAUGHTER) JILL BIDEN: But I think that they are so proud of what they’re doing. I mean, that’s their job. That’s what they’re committed to do, and they have pride in their work and what they’re doing.

KING: Do they understand it?

JILL BIDEN: I think they do understand it. And how could they not understand it with all the news coverage?

KING: You came in an administration headed by a man very opposed to war. Well, who isn’t opposed to war?

JOE BIDEN: Yes.

KING: But voted against Iraq.

JOE BIDEN: Well, look –

KING: Has that perception in him — and maybe both of you — changed since — in the past two years?

JOE BIDEN: Look, he [President Obama] was against the war in Iraq because he thought it could have been avoided and it should have been avoided. He at the very beginning was not against — he thought we had to react in Afghanistan where al Qaeda was where they — where they came in and — and actually killed us. And the thing that’s interesting about the confluence of his commitment to make America safe and what Jill does running around the country is — you notice there’s this great phrase, only one percent of the Americans are fighting the war, but 99 percent owe them their support. And it’s — it’s really interesting. Both Jill and Barack are from the Vietnam — not the Vietnam era. They did not — their — their –

KING: But you are.

JOE BIDEN: I am. I am. And — and so what Jill and Barack wanted to make sure and Michelle was — and I agree with them — that — that coming home from these wars, that they never are treated like the guys in my generation who came home. Instead of being spat upon, they’d be embraced. And so that’s why I think — in fact, I know — why Jill and Michelle spent so much time going around the country reminding people.

KING: You meet with people who’ve lost people?

JILL BIDEN: Oh, yes. All the time.

KING: How do you deal with that?

JILL BIDEN: Well, it — it is really hard and Joe and I have spent a lot of time — a lot of time with wounded warriors. Actually, next Monday, we’re having a dinner for wounded warriors at the residence. We did it last –

JOE BIDEN: We have three Thanksgivings a year.

JILL BIDEN: Yeah. We did it last Thanksgiving. We’ve been to many, many hospitals, burn centers. It’s tough. It’s really tough.

KING: There’s no formula, is there?

JILL BIDEN: No. There’s no formula. And — but the one thing that — one of the reasons I wanted Joe to join this team, to join this administration is that Barack wanted to get — wanted to get out of Iraq. And I so badly wanted to get out of Iraq, especially since I had a son going to Iraq.

JOE BIDEN: Well, I wanted to get out of Iraq, but it’s interesting, I did not initially want to be vice president. And when asked initially, I said — he said he needed an answer right away and I — I said, well if you need an answer now, Barack, the answer’s no. And he said, well, go home and talk to your family about it and get back to me. And it really surprised me when I went home, Jill said, you’ve got to do this. And this is not a woman who’s pushing me to run for President before or wanted me to be vice president. But it was her firm conviction about Iraq.

KING: We only have a short time left but I want to ask about the reaction your boy had after Iraq to before Iraq.

KING: Did Iraq change your son?

JILL BIDEN: I don’t think so. Do you, Joe?

JOE BIDEN: I don’t think it changed him. I think it — he came away with an overwhelming impression about the men and women he served with.

Not — no — no — no joke. I mean, he said, dad, you’d be amazed at these guys and these women. You’d just be amazed. And I — I was not amazed. I was there so many times. But Jill came with me, and an interesting thing. On the way back I said, you know, Jill, I feel guilty. I was here four times during the year Bo was here in Iraq. And I always felt guilty I got to see him. And I said, I wish you had. And tell him your reaction to that.

JILL BIDEN: Yeah. I said if I had been — if I had gone [to Iraq] when [my stepson] Bo was there, I couldn’t have left him there. You know, I don’t think any mother who goes to a war zone could ever leave a child in a war zone.

Transcript of Larry King Interview With Vice President Joe Biden and Second Lady Jill Biden

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Veterans Today Commentary by Major Robert L. Hanafin, U.S. Air Force-Retired, GS-14, U.S. Civil Service-Retired, Veterans Issues Editor, Veterans Today News Network

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