Women in Islam – Pointers for the Western mind

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by crescentandcross in Uncategorized 

Nashid Abdul-Khaaliq

www.ascertainthetruth.com

Many people are both misguided and confused regarding the treatment of women in Islam. They believe the wrong media portrayal of Muslim women and they confuse Islam with male chauvinistic actions that are not supported by teachings in Islam or the example of our Prophet (saaw). What I would like to ask them is: Have you ever studied Islam and seen for yourself what it teaches about the treatment of women? Most have not. But yet some westerners speak and write as authorities based on the false propaganda broadcasted in the media and the poor examples of some Muslim men portrayed in the Islamic world. The following will help present a few facts regarding how Muslim women are viewed and treated according to the teachings of Islam:

1. The Prophet Muhammad (saaw) taught that the Muslim father who educates his daughters will go straight to heaven. Why did he have to say that? He was coming from a society that buried their female baby daughters alive and thought that it was only great to have sons. Allah blessed the Prophet to abolish that practice with the teachings of Islam. Also it shows the value that Allah places on the importance of women being educated. It shows that Islam expects contributions from women in society.

2. The Prophet said, “Heaven is at the feet of the mother.” This shows the great importance of women to society. How she raises her children can bring about heaven for a society if she raises them correctly.

3. The Prophet was asked, “Who in this world should be loved more than anyone else?” He answered, YOUR MOTHER. He was asked then who next? He answered, YOUR MOTHER. Again he was asked who after that? He answered, YOUR MOTHER. And again he was asked who after that? Then he said, YOUR FATHER.” This powerful Hadith should be enough to emphasize the importance and high regard in which women and especially mothers are held in Islam.

4. The Qur’an teaches that both men and women can reach the same mental and spiritual heights. It does not make the woman a lesser being than man in respect to mental and spiritual possibilities. In addressing the believers, the Qur’an often uses the expression, “believing men and women” to emphasize the equality of men and women in regard to their respective duties, rights, virtues and merits. It says:

For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah’s praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward. (33:35)

The special relationship between a man and his wife is captured in these beautiful words from the Qur’an:



And among His Signs is this that He created for you mates from among yourselves, that ye may dwell in tranquility with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts): verily in that are Signs for those who reflect. Qur’an 30:2

A life of tranquility filled with love and mercy between their hearts is what Allah ordained in the Qur’an for husband and wife.

The Qur’an says:

And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women. (2:226)
The Prophet (saaw) said, “O People! It is true that you have certain rights with regards to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah’s trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers.”

Instead of suppression, the Prophet (saaw) said “The best among you is he who is most kind to his wife.” And the Qur’an says: “Live with them in kindness; even if you dislike them, perhaps you dislike something in which Allah has placed much good” (4:19).

Kindness to our wives is very heavily emphasized. The Prophet also said: “Do not beat the female servants of Allah.”

The idea of women being some kind of lesser being in Islam to be treated badly is totally false. There is no justification to be found for that view in anything Islam teaches.

5. Did you know that Islam gave women the right to vote, to own properties and to initiate divorce 1400 years ago long before women in the western world got those rights? When did women get these rights in the U.S.? It was only in the 1920s and it took a women’s suffrage movement to make it happen. Prime Ministers of Bangladesh: Khaleda Zia & Hasina Wajed

6. Did you know that in the brief history of maybe about 70 years being free from colonial rule Islamic women were able to accomplish a feat that women in the more than 200 year history in the U.S. have not been able to accomplish? What is that you ask? In three Muslim countries, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Indonesia women were elected Prime Ministers of their countries. They became the top leaders of their countries. How could that be if Islam treats women as “inferior”?

7. Did you know that the veil worn by some women in Islamic countries is not dictated by Islam? Did you know that even the Burgah in Afghanistan and black Abayya dress in Saudi Arabia is cultural NOT Islamic? Read the Qur’an and study Islamic literature and see what it says. The only requirement Islam puts on women’s dress is modesty.

And say to the believing women that they restrain their looks and guard their private parts, and that they display not their beauty or their embellishment except that which is apparent thereof, and that they draw their head-coverings over their bosoms, and that they display not their beauty or their embellishment save to their husbands, or to their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands, or their sons, or the sons of their husbands, or their brothers or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or women who are their companions, or those that their right hands possess, or such of male attendants as have no desire for women, or young children who have not yet attained knowledge of the hidden parts of women. And that they strike not their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may become known. And turn ye to Allah all together, O believers, that you may prosper. (24:31)

Go look at a movie portraying women in the U.S. around the 1900s. You would see that they too dressed modestly. It was not until deliberate and overt immoral messages were infused into society by the people in control of mass media advertisements, popular entertainment, and the fashion industry that women began to take their modest dress off and they began to feel that exposing their bodies as sexual objects was to be viewed as some kind of “freedom”.

Islam teaches that women have great value in society, and it protects them from being demeaned and viewed as sexual objects.

Regarding modesty, the Qur’an gives these general rules, which may help in understanding how to interpret dress and other rules in modern times.

O ye Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover your shame, as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness,- that is the best. Such are among the Signs of Allah, that they may receive admonition! (7:26)
So clothing does not have to be drab: it is all right for both sexes to use clothing to enhance beauty as well as to cover nakedness. The most important thing is for a Muslim’s character to be modest and righteous.

8. The veil came into Islamic countries 300 years after the passing of Prophet Muhammad. According to Karen Armstrong:

“There is nothing in the Qur’an about obligatory veiling for all women or their seclusion in harems. 

This only came into Islam about three generations after the prophet’s death, under the influence of the Greeks of Christian Byzantium, who had long veiled and secluded their women in this way. Veiling was neither a central nor a universal practice; it was usually only upper-class women who wore the veil. But this changed during the colonial period.”  Link

There is much more that I can point to in the teachings of Islam and practices of Muslims that can help clarify the deliberate misrepresentations about the position of women in Islam. But, if you want to know the truth, go talk to a Muslim woman. Let her tell you how “oppressed” and “not free” she is. Go observe the respect and care that her husband and male members of her family and society gives her and the protection they demand for her. The Prophet (saaw) said “the foundation of the family is in the woman”. And we know that the foundation of any society is in the family. Rather than disrespect the woman, Islam places her on a high pedestal of respect and honor for the dignified being that Allah has created her to be. Western women may believe that exposing themselves is a symbol of true womanhood. But they are sadly mistaken.

The etymological meaning of the word “woman” is “womb of mind”. Women are both the physical and mental wombs for the development of all minds in society. As a result more respect is demanded for them. They are not to be treated as sexual objects but should be honored and held in high esteem. This is and always has been the position of Islam on women. Do not be fooled by media distortions and practices of “Muslims” who are ignorant of their religion.

 

Comments

  1. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    Nashid Abdul-Khaaliq

    http://www.ascertainthetruth.com

    “Have you ever studied Islam …”

    It seems useless to ask THEM the same question over and over again, but WE HAVE TO!

    I am particularly not interested in Muslims as they always try to convince me that they know it all. But, I rather try and speak or write to or write about people like Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, Texe Marrs, Richard Dawkins, and a few others who despite their ‘great’ knowledge of ‘Christ’ianity are convinced that Islam is comparable to it and because they have found all the evil in the world in their particular brand of Christiniaty they are convinced Islam has the same evils and even worse.

    I have taught my two grand daughters the nasheed in the posted youtube video clip, and now I cannot say any thing bad about their blessed mother even when she drives me crazy. And some say religion is not useful or necessary for a balanced way of life!

    THANKS for the posting.

    Basheer

  2. weeteanscone says:

    November 7, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Because of the fact that what passes for Christianity now is only a substance less veneer of Christian principle, and only ‘mouth service’ and hypocrisy, we no longer see women portrayed or living their ‘roles’ as Christian women.

    There is much to be admired in the Islamic tradition, which places woman much closer to the natural order of her design.

    The over all theme of ungodliness which permeates all aspects of Western culture has taken a terrible toll through the degenerate posture it endorses for womankind.

    In Christian tradition and writ, the roles of men and women are well defined. Without quoting numerous chapter and verse

    Women are to be ‘subject’ to their husbands in all things. Women are to be pure and chaste. Women are to be modest in dress, deportment, character and speech. Women are to busy themselves with their own households. Women are to bear and raise children.

    As the Jew is at continual war with God, and Godliness, these norms of the defining presentation of ideal womanhood, once highly esteemed in Christianity; have, through Jew agenda initiatives, become the objects of scorn and ridicule.

    I would say that the rebellion against Godly values in western woman is epidemic in proportion.

    One may calculate the impact of it by merely reviewing the divorce and abortion statistics; and, it has all been orchestrated in the past few decades, by the Jew.

  3. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    “Heaven is at the feet of the mother.”

    Back in 1990-1991, I was so disappointed with my mother who was having a terrible time coping with her ELEVEN children some of whom I claimed rightly or wrongly to be devils.

    When I could bear it no more, I said to my mother:

    Mum, can you, please,lift up your foot. She did not understand why I asked her to do that, but she did lift her foot and I crouched down and passed my hand under her foot and said to her:

    “Mum, I have now taken my Jannah (Paradise) from under your foot!” She tapped me on the cheek and said: “Shut your mouth!” I was 45 years old. At 89, she still taps me on the cheek because I would not shut up!

    Having said that, Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt, Dershowitz, Foxman, Bush, Blair, Obama, Sharon and Bibi too must have had MOTHERS!

    My claim (I cannot prove it!) is that sometimes the DEVIL comes in between a husband and wife (or cohabiting partners) and does some real mischief at conception.

    Basheer

  4. Ghyslaine Roc says:

    November 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    There he goes again!

    Do not listen to Basheer, he knows nothing about women and he has such a big mouth!

    Ghyslaine

  5. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    “5. Did you know that Islam gave women the right to vote, to own properties and to initiate divorce 1400 years ago long before women in the western world got those rights? When did women get these rights in the U.S.?”

    Yes, we do but we don’t want to acknowledge anything that can make us change our mind and way of life. We know many things like

    who carried out WWI, WWII, the Russian revolution, 9/11, 7/7
    the assassinations of the Tsar and his entire family
    the Armenian genocide
    the slave trade
    the Congolese Holocaust
    the Ukrainian Holocaust
    the Irish Holocaust
    the Algerian Holocaust (3 times)
    the Afghan Holocaust (3 times)
    the Iraqi Holocaust (twice)
    who owns the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England
    who controls the Vatican, the CIA, the CRF, the Bilderbergers, the UN, the IMF, the World Council of Churches, the Freemasonic Movement, the Rosicruscians…

    We know a lot, but why change? Who cares about women’s rights in Islam? All we know is that Islam oppresses women and

    our media say so
    our government says so
    our churches say so

    But, it is a pity Jesus Christ forgot to say so!

    YES, Islam did give women the right to vote, to own properties and to initiate divorce 1400 years ago long before women in the western world got those rights, and nobody can change this truth!

    So, my dear Americans and Christians, if not gratitude, at least HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE RELIGION THAT LIBERATED WOMEN!

    JESUS, peace and blessings upon him, taught the same thing when he asked us to OBEY THE LAW and what did the Law say?

    HONOUR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER! LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF! As a matter of fact, Muhammad came only to correct the corruption of men and PERFECT the Diin (way of life – religion) once for all.

    America has had great and blessed Chrsitian mothers by the tons because they were never ill treated by their husbands. But, the Devil was living amongst them and they did not pay much attention to him. Let us hope that they will finally realise that the Devil is still here thanks to the efforts, dedication and sacrifice of some and that they have to do something about it.

    Long Live Christian America!

    Basheer

  6. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    “There is nothing in the Qur’an about obligatory veiling for all women or their seclusion in harems …”

    The Islamic obligation is to be modest in dress and manners. The veil is a Byzantine tradition.

    As for harem, the West has demonised that term.

    It just means the PRIVATE APARTMENT of the ladies (not only the wife or wives) where men are not allowed! Men had never any private apartment, but women had! It has nothing to do with a polygynist household or the kind of “brothels” of some rich potentates of the Jewish Saudi Kings and other puppet royalties put by the West at the head of conquered Muslim lands.

    “Harem (Turkish, from Arabic حرم ḥaram ‘forbidden place; sacrosanct, sanctum’, related to حريم ḥarīm ‘a sacred inviolable place; female members of the family’ and حرام ḥarām, ‘forbidden; sacred’) refers to the sphere of women …”

    It has to do with Islamic SAVOIR-VIVRE where men do not just walk in into the ladies’ quarters as they please! But, it is also true that some fanatics have exagerated this practice.

    LES FEMMES MUSULMANES ONT DE LA PUDEUR!

    Why did the West have separate bathrooms (toilets) for GENTS and LADIES? I do not know (liar!) if they still have it with all these scandals about feminist and LGBT rights!

    Basheer

  7. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    I always loved women, BEAUTIFUL women, and always treated them well and as a perfect gentleman. I once brought a bouquet to my boss in 1975. She misundersood the gesture and thought I was infatuated or in love with her. In 1982, she gave me a son!

    There’s a woman for you! But, when the heart is not beautiful, what’s the use of physical beauty? In 1997, she said: Get out of MY house! Of course, she was lying, but my 14 year old son and I chose to leave to this very day.

    But, were it not for Islam and for Muhammad, I do not think I would have stayed a gentleman for long.

    So, I say a CHRISTIAN America will be good for Muslims and Islam as Islam and Muslims have been good for Christians for the past 1400 years. If American Christians cannot understand this, then, they will prove only one thing: that their religion is not that good after all!

    Basheer

  8. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Ghyslaine Roc says:
    November 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    “Do not listen to Basheer …”

    Nonsense, woman!

    I am good, really good! How many of us know that more and more Christians are becoming RENEGADES and more and more Muslims are becoming Atheists and renegades?

    Many Christian apostates have chosen other gods like those of Tarot, astrology, numerology and the Jewish Kabbalah! Can anybody tell us what they preach in their religions about women’s rights? Thanks.

    Basheer

  9. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    DAWUD WHARNSBY ALI

  10. Ghyslaine Roc says:

    November 7, 2011 at 10:13 pm

  11. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 10:37 pm

  12. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    While the Western media is demonising Muslim women, the CANNIBALS are butchering their children around the world.

    Yes, Islam united the Children of the World only to be slaughetered like cattle and irradiated with weapons of mass destruction.

    GOD is not so great after all. JEWS ARE UNLESS ……. !

  13. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 7, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    I posted the present article on a French RACIST;FASCIST website that declared war against Islam and the Islamic Dress Code.

    http://sitamnesty.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/livre-les-dessous-du-voile/#comment-4165

    QUITE EXPLOSIVE, BUT IN FRENCH!

    Commentaire par Ghyslaine ROC — Dimanche 12 décembre 2010 @ 17:57

    COMMENTAIRE SUPPRIMÉ PAR SITAmnesty (Cyrano et l’équipe de Riposte Laïque)

    [Premièrement, non, on n’a rien supprimé du tout mais on n’est pas en permanence derrière notre clavier à guetter les commentaires. Il peut se passer plusieurs jours entre un commentaire et sa validation. Il n’y a pas d’ailleurs pas de censure ici puisque nous appliquons toujours notre Charte du Dialogue. Exceptionnellement, le message de pur délire ci-dessous n’a pas été passé à la charte comme le sont habituellement les messages de ce type, ceci pour vous permettre d’en apprécier la rareté (heureusement…) à sa juste valeur. Deuxièmement SITAmnesty et Cyrano+l’équipe de Riposte Laïque ne sont pas les mêmes personnes. Nous avons simplement des valeurs communes et nous faisons sur SITAmnesty de la publicité pour leur livre parce que c’est un bon livre.]

    DE VOTRE CENSURE, JE M’EN BALANCE !

    Je vous re-dis MERDE !

    Nous vous disons MERDE, à vous, « Ripostes laïques » et à la France fasciste !

    Je suis FRANÇAISE, terrienne et citoyenne du monde contrairement à votre bande de vermines racistes, de laïques pourris, d’antisémites, d’incitateurs à la haine raciale et religieuse, de fanatiques, d’extrémistes, de fascistes, d’intolérants, de dégénérés, d’esclavagistes, de fabricants d’holocaustes, de marchandises sionistes, d’avorteurs, de pornographes, de pédophiles, de Sodomites, de suppôts de Satan et d’AntéChrists !

    Vous puez le racisme à six millions d’années lumières !

    Si les Six Millions de Musulmanes et de Musulmans de France n’étaient pas aussi lâches et n’aimaient pas autant l’argent sale des Juifs, ils sortiraient en masse dans les rues de France en hijaab, en niqaab, en kipa, barbus, en pyjamas, en jellaba, en soutane, si cela les arrange, et si vous n‘êtes pas contents, alors nous vous disons MERDE, à vous et à la France !
    Si vous voulez que les Musulmans (et non les Juifs et les Sionistes) prennent le chemin de l’Exode, alors fichez le camp de leurs pays que vous colonisez, pillez et dont vous massacrez et violez les habitants depuis des siècles ! Et, je suis polie !

    Ghyslaine ROC
    Femme Libre et Souveraine de la Terre
    Serviteur de Dieu et d’aucun homme ou gouvernement
    Ce dimanche non laïque 12 décembre 6010

    Commentaire par Ghyslaine ROC — Dimanche 12 décembre 2010 @ 17:57

    Les CROISÉS JUDÉO-CHRÉTIENS de « Riposte Laïque » ont le droit, EUX, de MENTIR, de DIFFAMER, d’INSULTER, de pratiquer la discrimination contre l’Islam et les Musulmans de France et de la francophonie, mais nous n’avons pas le droit de RIPOSTE ! Belle mentalité laïque ! De la lâcheté, oui !

    Halte aux seins nus et aux fesses à l’air,symboles de la soumission des femmes françaises et de l’offensive laïque judéo-sioniste sur le marché du sexe laïque de Pigalle et du Bois de Boulogne !

    C’est vrai, c’est bien chez nous que la liberté d’expression fut abolie par les Judéocrates bolcheviques et qu’on emprisonne les historiens et les dissidents ! Donc, continuez à vous amuser, mais je vous préviens que les SIX MILLIONS DE MUSULMANS DE France ne se laisseront jamais mener au four crématoire du Père Lachaise ou du Rabbin Josy Eisenberg ou Sitruck (machin truc) sans se défendre !

    Passez le bonjour à vos acolytes de la Cabale ! Si vous décidez de m’envoyer le Shin Beth, le MOSSAD, le Criff, S.O.S. Juifisme, les milices de la DJ, je suis archi prête à les recevoir !

    Ghyslaine ROC

    Commentaire par Ghyslaine ROC — Dimanche 12 décembre 2010 @ 22:46

    [Exceptionnellement, le message de pur délire ci-dessous n’a pas été passé à la moulinette du dialogue comme le sont habituellement les messages de ce type, ceci pour vous permettre d’en apprécier la rareté (heureusement…) à sa juste valeur.]

    Nous vous disons MERDE, à vous, « Ripostes laïques » et à la France fasciste !

    Je suis FRANÇAISE, terrienne et citoyenne du monde contrairement à votre bande de vermines racistes, de laïques pourris, d’antisémites, d’incitateurs à la haine raciale et religieuse, de fanatiques, d’extrémistes, de fascistes, d’intolérants, de dégénérés, d’esclavagistes, de fabricants d’holocaustes, de marchandises sionistes, d’avorteurs, de pornographes, de pédophiles, de Sodomites, de suppôts de Satan et d’AntéChrists !

    Vous puez le racisme à six millions d’années lumières !

    Si les Six Millions de Musulmanes et de Musulmans de France n’étaient pas aussi lâches et n’aimaient pas autant l’argent sale des Juifs, ils sortiraient en masse dans les rues de France en hijaab, en niqaab, en kipa, barbus, en pyjamas, en jellaba, en soutane, si cela les arrange, et si vous n‘êtes pas contents, alors nous vous disons MERDE, à vous et à la France !

    Si vous voulez que les Musulmans (et non les Juifs et les Sionistes) prennent le chemin de l’Exode, alors fichez le camp de leurs pays que vous colonisez, pillez et dont vous massacrez et violez les habitants depuis des siècles ! Et, je suis polie !

    Ghyslaine ROC
    Femme Libre et Souveraine de la Terre
    Serviteur de Dieu et d’aucun homme ou gouvernement
    Ce dimanche non laïque 12 décembre 6010

    Commentaire par Ghyslaine ROC — Dimanche 12 décembre 2010 @ 17:57

  14. funky d says:

    November 8, 2011 at 12:57 am

    this article by nashid reminds me of the article he posted on his website explaining how the prophet muhammed (peace be upon him) did not and could not have married a 9 year old girl, but how she was in fact around 18 years old.

    good to see the likes of nashid return to these types of websites.

  15. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 8, 2011 at 1:04 am

    weeteanscone says:
    November 7, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    “Women are to be ‘subject’ to their husbands in all things.”

    I am sure I can find the evidence that this was not a Christian practice but a Church innovation and a Paulian invention.

    Much about Mary (Maryam) the blessed and saintly mother of Jesus, peace be upon him, and Mary Magdalena has been omitted, deliberately tampered with, and even hidden like the GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENA.

    The “holy” Roman Empire has always been a big business corporation that subjugated both Christian men and women for the benefit of the Churches, the royalty and the aristocracy.

    BAFS

  16. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 8, 2011 at 1:16 am

    “But, if you want to know the truth, go talk to a Muslim woman. Let her tell you how “oppressed” and “not free” she is.”

    They would never interview the Muslim woman!

    Accusing Islam for oppressing women while the same monsters raped 60,000 of them in one country alone, Bosnia-Herzegovina, murdered 200,000 at least, expelled 600,00 and destroyed 800 mosques.

    Muslims are amnesic of their own history and refuse to learn, but they know everything about football, cricket, Hollywood, Bollywood, games, cocacola, mcdonald, and pop stars!

    Jews are better than all of us as they remember even history that never was.

    Basheer

  17. weeteanscone says:

    November 8, 2011 at 2:26 am

    @B.A.Frémaux-Soormally

    Peace be upon you. I would like to suggest a recommendation for you.

    I have observed your comments here, and at other pages; and must confess, that I find them over reaching the concept of a comment.

    For long expressions of idea; and, you certainly have much to express, I suggest that you create our own ‘blog’, for free, here – https://en.wordpress.com/signup/

    There are various advantages to doing this; and some of them are as follows.

    Having your own blog allows you to write about things from your perspective, and on aspects of subjects that are important, as you may see them.

    There are many facets to the subject at hand, and we can better cover the whole by individual insight from individual perspectives.

    The idea then would be to choose those aspects most important, in your opinion, and write about them. If you are inspired to write a very long comment, from something that you read at some one else s blog, then you can post the entire article on your blog, then post a short comment with a ‘link’ to it. And at your blog you can also ‘link’ back to the original article.

    This multiplies the number of ‘blogs’ active in the effort. People will find your blog and link to others from it.

    If every reader had a forum for his own thoughts in this effort, it would reflect very positively for our efforts, especially statistically.

    Then you could still make short supportive comments on numerous other sites.

    It would be well if many more would engage in this simple activity. I have just addressed this comment to you, because you obviously have much to post; and actually, enough to warrant you having your own blog.

    Why not give it a try, and ‘multiply’ the number of blogs addressing our subject ?
    Sincerely yours ; Weeteanscone

  18. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 8, 2011 at 5:16 am

    weeteanscone says:
    November 8, 2011 at 2:26 am

    @B.A.Frémaux-Soormally

    “Peace be upon you. I would like to suggest a recommendation for you.”

    Dear who shall I call you?

    Peace be upon you, too!

    “I would like to suggest a recommendation for you” too.

    I have not “observed your comments here, and at other pages; and must confess, that I find” your suggestion very disrespectful towards our host. I have been accomplishing a mission here and, like most others, you have not yet understood what it is all about. You are here for just the fun of it, but I am not.

    I have been entertaining the guests here for quite some time and I quite enjoy it or saddened depending how we look at it to see how one by one they silently fade away and run away from the issues raised and this gives me an idea how good both readers and contributors are.

    It is the second time I am respectfully invited to abandon my host and go elsewhere. I do not know from what school of thought this kind concern about my work is coming from and I do not intend to find out.

    If I were not a guest, I would be less polite.

    “Why not give it a try, and ‘multiply’ the number of blogs addressing our subject ?”

    “Our”? You do not seem to be quite interested in the subject or in receiving advice from me and being educated. Why not try following your own advice? Just give it a try if this is your ambition to ” ‘multiply’ the number of blogs addressing” your subject?

    By the way, where are your other “commentators”?

    Yours sincerely

    BAFS

  19. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 8, 2011 at 5:21 am

    funky d says:
    November 8, 2011 at 12:57 am

    “good to see the likes of nashid return to these types of websites.”

    Maybe I’ll be luckier with old funky!

    Come on, old chap, am I that invisible? I contributed as well and quite a bit on BOTH posts you mentioned.

    Amazing, those earthlings!

    BAFS

  20. B.A.Frémaux-Soormally says:

    November 8, 2011 at 5:30 am

    “Western women may believe that exposing themselves is a symbol of true womanhood. But they are sadly mistaken.”

    Many western and westernised women are very decent women.

    I knew one in France, a former Catholic by the name Nadine. She refused to EXPOSE herself (meaning sleeping around with the producers, directors, stars…) in order to obtain a role in Hollywood and said adamantly:

    I WILL KEEP MY VIRGINITY FOR MY HUSBAND.

    One of the richest French Jews, if not the richest, liked Nadine and married her. His name is ROTHSCHILD, a Baron!

    I always wondered how some Jews got these titles when ‘we’ (the Freemasons) chopped the heads of the French Royalty!

    Basheer

  21. MJ says:

    November 8, 2011 at 5:38 am

    http://www.imranhosein.org/articles/women-in-islam/93-woman-and-paradise-in-islam.html
    Excerpt:
    “Islam has never sought to put an equal sign between the sexes. ‘Woman’ can neither be studied nor understood in a context independent of ‘man’. The two are inseparable. The Prophet declared that women were “… the twin-halves of men.” The Qur’an confirmed this inter-dependence when it declared “They are your garments, and you are their garments.” And in a passage with sublime literary beauty the Qur’an (al-Lail, 92:1-4) first directed attention to the ‘night’ and that which it shrouds and conceals with such mystery and splendor, and then turned to the ‘day’ with its bright light which exposes everything and leaves nothing concealed, and then proceeded to explain that the ‘male’ and the ‘female’ are functionally analogous to the ‘day’ and the ‘night’. In the same way that ‘day’ and ‘night’ are functionally different yet interdependent, so too are the ‘male’ and ‘female’.

    When this philosophy of gender was applied to Muslim society the ‘night’ never attempted to become ‘day’. Rather ‘night’ and ‘day’ eternally longed for each other. And so we were never subjected to the abominable phenomenon (that European civilization is now exporting to the rest of the world) of the ‘day’ mating with ‘day’ and vice-versa. Women in such a society not only fulfilled all their sacred functional duties as wives and as mothers, and thus contributed in a significant way to preservation of the health, strength and stability of the family, but, in addition, they preserved both their femininity as well as their fertility. And so the Muslim woman remained truly and enchantingly a woman! An age that produced the celibate priest had obstinately insisted that one had to turn away from woman in order to turn to God. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah Most High be upon him) responded by declaring “Three things have been made dear to me in this world of yours – perfume, women and prayer.” And so Islam rejected both celibacy and the ‘object’ while recognizing woman, like prayer, to be a medium through which a man might journey to paradise.”

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  22. MJ says:

    November 8, 2011 at 5:46 am

    From Brother Nashid’s article:

    “O ye Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover your shame, as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness,- that is the best. Such are among the Signs of Allah, that they may receive admonition! (7:26)
    So clothing does not have to be drab: it is all right for both sexes to use clothing to enhance beauty as well as to cover nakedness. The most important thing is for a Muslim’s character to be modest and righteous.”

    Basically once our desires are met in a honorable manner and marriage is honorable. We can focus on our higher purpose of pleasing the Creator and striving for paradise.

  23. Ghyslaine Roc says:

    November 8, 2011 at 6:11 am

    weeteanscone says:
    November 8, 2011 at 2:26 am

    @B.A.Frémaux-Soormally

    “I would like to suggest a recommendation for you …”

    Don’t play with fire, whoever you are! Observer, my foot!

    If you cannot digest Basheer’s stuff, maybe you should see what’s wrong with you!

    Ghyslaine ROC
    Femme Libre et Souveraine de la Terre
    Serviteur de Dieu et d’aucun homme ou gouvernement

  24. Ingrid B says:

    November 8, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    It is my opinion that western women who dress immodestly may attract a certain amount of attention, of the wrong kind, whereas muslim women are shown respect. Unfortunately, western women, most of them, have not figured this out. In the words of the Grateful Dead, (Attics of my Life,) we should close our eyes to see..

  25. Ingrid B says:

    November 8, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    @ weeteanscone, I think you must be a Scottish muslim..

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