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Maybe Mr. Murphy is not aware of and maybe he is not aware of these issues that occurred in the late 1800s and the early 1900s that, basically, effectively, placed the Zionists in such a powerful position in the United States’ government and that has effectively taken away the sovereignty of the United States’ government for over a century.”
What follows is an approximate translation of the interview.
Press TV: Scott Rickard, one Google search or whatever search engine of your preference on the net, of how the Israeli lobby has influence in the US and you get millions of entries and testimonials and books and what have you. How sever is the influence that the Israeli lobby has in the US?
Rickard: Well, it is quite sever. If you look at the Israeli lobby, it is just one of many organizations that have affected American influence both domestically and foreign affairs for, well over a century.
You are talking about educational influence, political influence, financial influence, religious influence that really started in the late 1800’s with the Zionist Movement and the Zionist Movement has been quite effective at affecting all of those areas and driving, what I would consider, a non-sovereign type of foreign affairs with a lot of different nations around the world.
We have gone very aggressively against Libya recently and Syria recently and these are all driven by not American interests but interests that are coming out of the region specifically Israel.
Press TV: Well, we will talk about it a little more, but I am curious given the extent of this, can the boundaries of the Israeli lobby be actually be somehow be identified precisely as an example in terms of the US Congress?
In terms of the influence that they have, the boundaries, in the case that I am going to use an example, US Congress; how much influence do they have? What do they do to exert this influence?
Rickard: Well, what they do is that they lobby the Congress during the elections as well while they are sitting in office they continually visit them, impress upon them the interest; the lobby has quite a bit of influence on the campaign finances.
You are looking at a very small group of individuals who represent the majority of campaign contributions but it ties directly back to the financial community, the financial community has been pretty much dominated by the Zionist control for nearly a hundred years and that Zionist control of the financial community drives right into the influence of these lobbies.
Press TV: Well, Scott Rickard we have Paul Findley that has represented Illinois 20th district in Congress, he said that all members swear to serve the interests of the United States but there is an unwritten and overwhelming exception, the interest of one small foreign country, almost always trumps US interests. Is that how sever it is?
Rickard: Well, it is an unfortunate status quo in the United States and it has a lot to do with the influence on the religious and the financial communities.
These communities have predominantly driven American foreign and domestic policy. Now these types of representation coming out of these groups and it is not just AIPAC, there are several groups, ADL (Anti-Defamation League), CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America), control a lot of the media side and then you have the media that drives the mentality of the American people.
So the American people are very much following for the access of information that they have and the context in which they were taught in the schools.
Press TV: Ok, you talked about the foreign policy, let us break that open.
The Israeli lobby some descriptions, a loose coalition of individuals and organizations who actively work to steer US foreign policy in a pro-Israeli direction.
Now I noticed that you mentioned Libya. Can you name us some more examples and of course the one that comes to mind immediately would be Palestine and the Occupied Territories but of course other examples that you may want to use.
Rickard: Well, it really started…, if you at the past history, it started with the Petro Puppet States that are in the Arabian Peninsula and obviously American involvement in the British wars, World War I and World War II; and these types of influences have driven the American foreign policy alongside the French and the British.
Now that the Zionists moved effectively into England post their takeover of the Tsars in Russia; they basically took their financial influence and drove that down into the British foreign policy and that financial influence has driven American foreign policy at the same time because we have been partners with the French and the British for well over 100 to 150 years.
Press TV: I mentioned Palestine Scott Rickard, since 1982 the United States so far has vetoed 32 United Nations Security Council resolutions that were critical of Israel, going almost out on the limb there, it appears, because the violations, the Occupied Territories, are pretty black and white in terms of what keeps occurring.
Why does the United States go out on a limb so much when it comes to Israel vis-à-vis the Palestinian issue at the United Nation?
Rickard: Well, certainly I completely agree that the American influence on the Palestinian issue has been embarrassing, to say the least.
The amount of sanctions that have been imposed on Israel have been minimal and at the same time the amount of UN resolutions that have come up against Israel have been quite a few and have always been vetoed by the Americans because of the Zionist influence on the American State Department.
I mean most of the people in the State Department, if you go through their offices, they are very pro-Israel in their offices through the State Department.
You know, if you look at Max Blumenthal just gave a recent report on his visit to Israel and the rise of the right-wing parties in Israel, he basically, did not come out and say this but he basically described Israel as the rising sort of, a neo-Nazi nation of racism.
I mean the kinds of racism that is being pushed across that country and unfortunately Americans continue to turn a blind eye to it because of the amount of influence and disinformation that has been basically, pushed upon the American society for decades.
Press TV: Scott Rickard you were shaking your head; go ahead.
Rickard: Well, you know, that is an obvious commentary by Mr. Murphy. You know, this gentleman has spent his entire carrier as a lap dog for Israel and the Zionist Movement in the United States.
You know, whether he did it inadvertently or purposefully I do not know but his access to information as someone that grew up in the 30s and 40s and ended up in the military under Dean Rusk’s war with Russia and North Korea as well as working alongside the foreign service for over 30 years, this gentlemen obviously has been living the inside of the beast of the American foreign policy and he has constantly given his opinion about Israel, he has even boasted about how Israel has never lost a war.
So to have a kind of sympathy for Israel, I mean Israel sympathy he is talking about post-World War II has nothing to do with, basically, occupying Palestine.
This occupation of Palestine is an illegal occupation that was forced upon the allies even (Harry S.) Truman did not even want to do it at the time in the early 50s but the influence and the Zionist influence in the United States was very powerful in the 1950s.
You do not have to go back too far to see their influence in the United States. If you look at one of the most influential schools in the United States, the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, you know, right now the dean of that school is James Stavridis.
James Stavridis was the [Supreme] Allied Commander of NATO, the Supreme Commander of the NATO for some time and at the same time that school has been under the control of many individuals that are very pro-Israel prior to the establishment of Israel and establishment of the school in the 1800s and this is the kinds of things when you have to look too deep and look into the kinds of fraternities that are involved and the individuals that are involved and this goes back well over 100 years.
Press TV: Scott Rickard no evenhanded policy permitted. It is very hard to be objective when it comes to Israel. Why?
Rickard: Well, I think Mr. Murphy may have been referring to Benjamin (H.) Freedman.
Benjamin (H.) Freedman spoke out against Israel quite extensively and also spoke out against the Zionists but I think what we are failing to understand here is that it is not the effectiveness of the lobbies, it is the effectiveness and of financial communities, it is the effectiveness of the religious communities, it is the Scofield Reference Bible that was fabricated in England in the early 1900s, there are a lot of issues that are being skirted around that maybe Mr. Murphy is not aware of and maybe he is not aware of these issues that occurred in the late 1800s and the early 1900s that, basically, effectively, placed the Zionists in such a powerful position in the United States’ government and that has effectively taken away the sovereignty of the United States’ government for over a century.
Press TV: Scott Rickard again you were shaking your head. Go ahead!
Rickard: So, you know, we have to take another look at Mr. Murphy’s history. This gentleman was ambassador to Saudi Arabia at the time when the blue-eyed, blond-haired angle of death was dealing weapons with Adnan Khashoggi and we were supporting the Sunni puppet states in their militaristic attitude as well as these petro-controllers that have been involved in American policy for well over a century and to say that he had no influence, maybe inadvertently he was not aware that he was being influenced but even on his first assignment into Rhodesia he was under heavily influenced British colonialism.
So I would tend to say that his view of the world is based upon his access and his context at the time and the context and the access that he had to information was limited comparatively to the days that we have today.
